On Thursday one of the things we very briefly mentioned (someone used it as an example) was homelessness, and why some people don't think it is a social problem, well because it doesn't directly affect all people, they don't do anything about it, but they do, indirectly,they(someone)does things to counteract the situation not help it People complain about the people on the streets or harrassing them for moneies. On hillsboro street by NC state, and i think in Chapel hill by UNC, they have made panhandling illegal, and if memory serves me correct in some areas panhandlers have to get a permit. Ok let us think realistically, more likely than not a person who is "begging"for money, does not have the money to pay for a permit,but someone felt is it was enough of an issue to cause the city to make this a rule or law. So is it a social problem? Also downtown in Moore square, raleigh is trying to revitalize the area, so they have tried to ship the people from the immediate downtown area, further out, they are masking the problem, not helping. How can they help? With the revitalization, they can hire more people (but w/o an address it is hard to get a job)not think that all people on the street want to be on the street(perception),build more shelters,job training,affordable housing,housing is going up, but who can afford them? Just a thought.
What stood out to me the most in class was the issue that was raised about the number of homicides amongst black men. It has really opened my eyes to the impact that loss of life will cause. Yes, the loss of the life itself is tragic but very seldom do we think about the impact that loss has on the lives he left behind. Someone's Role model-gone, Son-gone,Father-gone,Husband-gone,Head of household-gone Wow! I have never been oblivious to fact that in society we have a lot of problems but I never knew how to separate them from "social" problems. This class has really opened my eyes to what is really going on.
I had never really thought of the hierarchies of social change but in the past few classes I have been exposed to various thought processes regarding our socio culture. Yes it is possible for a society to change behavioral patterns and it happens at both the macro and micro level and yes social change also requires certain conditions Caldwell’s “the tipping point” helped me to appreciate; societal change can be encouraged in a variety of ways on a variety of levels; and that each change results in some type of economical advantage. For example: If the social change has a negative impact on the economy of a city, new policies are put into effect to eradicate, eliminate, minimize or obtain control over what is causing the problem, with hopes it will eventually regain the economy that was lost.
If the social change stems from a more intrinsic value, for instance, wanting society to adopt a more liberal view on personal rights; societal change becomes complex as different appeals are explored that emphasize a commonality that we, as a society all share. Because of the complex nature of diversity and cultural values this type of change occurs in successive steps. Discovering effective and strategic measures that encourage change while non-violently pressing on, for the right(s) of the oppressed without discrimination take time; to enable fairness, equality, respect and a right to aspire to achieve the American Dream is the constitutional right of all American citizens.
Last weeks discussions were good as all ways. But I wanted to put my emphasis, on the homicide rate among black men in America. I think it is a very sad situation for our young brothers to die so young, by violence. A lot of these killings that occur are senseless and over petty stuff. Whether black or white I find this to be a social problem, in our local communties. We as a people need to take a stance, and stand up for non-violence in our communities. Eventually, I would like to see less reports of violent crimes. And more of our black men becoming lawyers, doctors, pastors, athletes, etc. Because as we know, there is a lot more out in the world, that black men can do, than kill.
one of the things that caught my attention this week was the homicide in our society. alot of the crime that does occur in today's society are black on black crime. why are all of our black men dying due to violences...why cant they help one another why cant their be peace...another think that really touch me was when you had us get into a group and tell something that we wanted to say for a while and couldnt get off our chest...to me it made me feel better because my group really didnt know me so they couldnt judge me and i got some really good advice...(thinks mrs .D and Carrie).
Crystal your post about homelessness i dont know if i quite agree with it...people in today's society that are homeless are homeless due to some type of addiction whether it's drugs acohol or simply not willing to work. I dont feel bad for majority of the homeless people that are on the streets...i feel as if there is plenty of assists thats avaiable for people to get, there are plenty of jobs out there if only people apply themselves. my attitude isnt going to change about homeless people i work hard for my money why cant they work hard to get theirs and i dont mean by standing on the corner in the cold or hot sun and holding up signs that say "god bless America" or "Obama yes we can" but accutally appying their selves. I remember watching this doc. on MTV about homelessness and the homeless people were saying that they make more money a year working the streets then getting a real job where the gov't tax money. that really made me upset. also to see someone on the streets with their signs then have a beer can sitting on the curve within arms reach thats crazy...i guess you can say i'm a complainer...
Donchelle.....I would have to agree with you to a certain point on the homeless issue. Are many of the homeless people homeless because they do not want to work or are they facing some other issue of society? Before the economy got the way it is now, I always would say to if I can go to work everyday then why don't they get out and find some work. If you think about it though most of us are one paycheck away from being homeless ourselves.
i think that if the hard working american people are one paycheck away from being homeless we need more goverment funding for some things if we work hard to make the enviroment sufficiant. The people cant always be the blame for their situation think about people who have college degrees and work at places like mac donalds. this is just in some cases but still it is a social problem!
Donchelle i want to interview you for my project,i understand your point and i saw the same piece on 2020,but that applies to a few, not all homeless people. Many do suffer from abuse, alcohol, drugs, and mental issues, but reality is alot of people are one pay check away from homeless.Last week there was an article in the paper, a man is living in the woods, he was a city worker, but got laid off,there is a woman in Moore Square right across the street from the Salvation Army living in a white van because her and her son could not afford to pay the bills, i forgot the issue, but housing wouldn't give them anything so she chose to live in her van,she makes crafts and sells them for money,could you imagine living in a van.Please don't let a few skew your mind to the many who have legitamate reasons for being homeless. Did you know if you live in a shelter, if when you leave at 5am that is the time you have to be up and out of there,if you go to work, or where ever, and are not back in at a certain time you are not garunteed a spot that night? Also if you make a certain amount of money,social services will not help you with needed monies, they calculate three months past income, determining what help you can get, so if you made too much three months ago, you can not get certain services, also the heating assistance, if you don't have a small child or 65 or older they will not give you emergency funds.Ask me how i know.One of the things i want to pride myself in doing when i become a counselor or teacher or both is speaking what i know, not what i learned in a book, living experience is truth, and a person can respect what you are doing if you have lived it or know it, i know all this because beleive it or not i was homeless....you can not get a job without an address, you can not get help if you don't have a job,yes one paycheck, one bad incident, one miscalculation,one stupid decision yours or someone elses can cause you to be homeless. Yes there are people who are more than capable of working, and are hooked on drugs, but do we stop and ask the question why? i used to feel the same way,i wanted to know where they got the pen and paper to write the stupid signs,everyone and every situation is different. That is why i am very passionate about learning, i never want to be put in that situation again,Moore square was my backdrop, my entertainment, my living room BET ain't got Squat on Moore Square.
I really wanted to say something regarding the article on Hip Hop. It was stated in class that Hip Hop was the problem and rappers like Common and Mos Def are not top sellers in the industry. I agree with that, however, Common and Mos Def are examples of the poetry that is rap. Hip Hop is now being used as a teaching tool in schools in Atlanta and D.C. Two men started a school where hip hop through rhyming can teach students especially black students, Math, Science, English, and so forth. The United States must adjust their curriculum to fit the needs of the non-majority students. We are different and have different learning needs. In Africa, children learn my the beat of the drum and rhythm is the basis of their curriculum. I think this is very helpful today in teaching our children their history as well as other subjects. The outdated curriculum being used by most states does not adequately teach students from diverse backgrounds properly. This why rappers often put in their lyrics how the American public school system has failed them.
Since I feel like homelessness is a social problem, I feel I should say something about it. I am really focused on a new mind set of homelessness. Before I was in the class social stratification, I must admit, I thought homeless people were all lazy and looking for excuses to just stand around and beg people for money. But being in the class and us actually going out to different homeless shelters and interacting with many different people who are homeless, changed my whole perspective. Yes, there may be some or possibly most homeless people out there because of drug addiction or something else negative. But when you meet just that ONE who is doing all the right things like we are and went to college, received a degree, started a family, had a good job, and still manage to become homeless just because of one mistake or job lay off- that will make you want to help and see what really goes on and how some people end up there. Then you began to see that its more homeless people out there that are doing the right thing and then you began to see that "this could be you" then it becomes a social problem.
I wanted to comment just a lil bit on the exploitation of gender whether being male or female. It got a bit heated in class the other day and i wanted to, first off apologize if I offended any one or If I seemed out of line. In many case in the hip hop world and society theres a "double standards" when it comes to sexuality of men and women both are different but in all cases should be respected equally.
Jamaal, thanks for the kind words. I wasn't offended, and I appreciated your passionate argument. I would enjoy hearing you say more about this "double standard" concept....
Good comments, everyone! Where is the rest of the class?
what caught me off guard in class last week was that only 1000 out of 100,000 black men will be killed by homicide every year. personally i thought that the number would be much higher. just in the small town that i live in there are at least 10 to 15 homicides a year so i could not imagine the numbers in larger cities but evidently the numbers are not that different. another issue that stood out to me was when we got to get into groups and let them know of a situation in our life we never really wanted someone to know about. at first i still didn't but after someone else broke the ice it mad it much easier for me. it starts with tell one or two but maybe one day i will be able to tell whoever to help me get the dead weight off my heart and life.
Jamaal, in response to your comment, I too apologize if anyone got offended. I agree that in society period there are double standards, however, there is no need for society to buy into that. Women have come a long way and it is amazing that in 2009, we are still being viewed as objects.
Donchelle I agree with some of your points on homelessness. With the economy the way it currently is (in the worst shape since the Great Depression), there is obviously going to be an increase in the amount of people on the streets. People are losing their houses in record numbers and also losing jobs daily with no opportunity to secure another one. We must build, rehab, buy, and help extremely low-income people rent, affordable housing. The unhealthy housing economy contributed greatly to our current economic situation. A healthy housing economy must be part of the solution.Now is the time to help households in crisis before they become homeless.Allowing homelessness to become the natural outcome of poverty, violence, or illness only allows those problems to become worse and more costly to individuals and society. In this state it also is the effect of mentally ill individuals being discharged too early from state hospitals with no proper aftercare and many of them end up back on the streets.I agree too that many times it is the result of substance abusers whose only focus is where to get their next "high". You can easily see the problem in our area when you go by the Salvation Army downtown where the homeless all line up to get their meals daily. The amount of people in line for food is increasing daily. I agree with you also that many can be seen on exit ramps off of 40 panhandling and I myself have witnessed them having a wad of money. (apparently it may be more lucrative than an actual job) Isn't it interesting that citizens will help a person down on their luck more than local government coming up with more resources for these individuals to be able to get a job and keep it. This problem is definitely going to get worse before it gets better.
Hey Jamaal, your comments were not so exploited as you may think. I understood were you was coming from, far as male and females in the industry. Of course women are subjected more to labels, and can be characterize quick in a negative way. But the same response can be govern towards a man as will. As you pointed out, there is definetly a "double standard" when it comes to sexuality and thee affect it has on people.
Dontrell, the point you made about people being one check away from homelessness, is so true. At one point in time people had enough to survive. But now -a -days, people are barely making it. I believe the economy is to blame for our set backs. Individuals having to work 2 and 3 jobs, just to make ends meet. Every paycheck deciding on what bills to pay. It's sad, but in the same instance so true. Once before people who had money, used to look down on the homeless. But now people are looking up at them. Finally realizing that could be them. Out in the cold, no money, no food, no shelter etc. The affect of being homeless has affected so many people, and I'll be glad when something can be done about it.
I agree with everyone's comments on homelessness. I believe homelessness is a problem, but I don't know if it is a social problem by the definition of the term. I do not think that society has agreed to do anything about it. After all the US has spent billions if not trillions on the wars in Afganistan and Iraq. I just don't understand why America does not have a solution to this problem as well as a solution to healthcare. Healthcare should be universal. We need to put our money where our mouth is.
I agree that a social problem consist of the society having to agree to do something about it. I think that society plays a big part because of all the homeless shelters that people agreed to help and work at. Also, there are certain programs that are out there which help support them. So I believe that society is trying.
I know, i know, i am late.... but better late than never... lol In the past week what really stood out to me was the "TIP DRILL' video, and how so many women, who never saw the video were upset about it. In the video, when he swiped the card between her butt cheeks, i dint think it symobilized him buying her, i just thought it was a funny way of nelly saying and showing that she has a big butt. To all the women who were upset bout the image the young ladies in the video were putting out, you have to think, the video came on UNCUT, which only aired at 3am, so staying up that late what were u expecting to see, atleast they all knew it was to extreme for regular video shows, and also, the only commericals during uncut are girls gone wild commercials so i mean really what do u expect in the video. also, nelly was not forcing these women to do anything, he had a casting, told them their role, and offered money... they had a choice to do it or not...
Brooks in response to your comment I have not seen the TIP drill video by Nelly, however, Dr. Greenfield's demostration said it all. The credit card incident did symbolize to me that she was to be bought. I think what we were supposed to get out of that discussion is that women in the hip hop industry have very limited choices. They do not have the same opportunities as men have to be successful. What it takes for women to have a profitable profession in the hip hop market requires them to sell their a$$.
Sometimes people make social problems by the choices they make. For example some homeless people choose to be homeless, because they think that they are beating the system by not having to pay taxes. God gave all people the choice of free will. Many times we blame society for I problems, but the problem looks at you in the mirror everyday. To do nothing is to become part of the problem
Well one thing that interested me was the part when we disqust the different topics and what we thought about it. Well one of the topics was "if we think weed (marijuana) should illgalized". My conversation was with my play husband U. Hall. My opinion about the topic was that it would keep alot of our black men out of the prisons for the use or the intent to see marijuana. It would stop them from selling it out in the streets forcing them to turn to other options. There would be more job opertunities because if weed was legal there will no longer be testing positive for marijuana. Which is one of our reason why our black men are turned down from jobs today.....
i am commenting on Donchelle Florences and Crystal comments on Homelessness, it is a really small issue when your not the one being affected by it. Due to the economy I believe eventually it will be a bigger problem as time passes. Believe it or not every one needs a helping hand at some point of their lives but, 80% of the time there is no one there with their hand out to help. So in this case it is very critical to each individual person to be responsible for there life situations. Your actions will effect you for the rest of your life whether it is good of bad decision. Nothing is handed to you in life, its a bomber that we all can not be born into rich families where money will never be an issue.If we were there would be other problems that would make up for homelessness. So yes i agree it is an issue but all there will always be a rich and a poor.
I beleieve that homelesssssssnes in this country is a BIG problem. I beleieve people try not to mention it. Most people rather act as if not having a place to go, stay , or live was some kind of taboo. The actions of some lost soul who shoot dope or didnt go to school. This is not always the case, I know people (friends) that at some point in time where living on the land; I understand to sum extent what these kinds of people go through as far a living,surviving,and such. The experience helped me to count my blessings and realize that at any moment I could lose my home and the bearings of my character.
Leola first off who are you to say that im not being affected by this issue; i know some of us are not born into rich families and i understand some of us are not served on a golden spoon, hell i'm living pay check to pay check praying every night money come from somewhere but when i have to go out into the in work for my money then i feel you can do the samething...i not bout to spend my hard working money on someone who is not trying to help theirself for the better... you know as well as i know i help everyone that i possibly can but there comes a thin line when i feel like you are not trying to help yourself are you are smooching...and alot of that does go around...crystal i will be more than likely to be interview....im not quite sure who you are approach me in class...
I meant to say there draws a line when a person feels like someone is trying to get over on them and dont want to help out anymore and personaly thats how i feel.
Crystal, I appreciate your stand on the issue of homelessness. As you know, I've worked closely w/the population here in Wake County and see this social problem from all sides. I too, plan to fulfill my projected assignment on the issue of homelessness.
Donchelle, I van see by you comments that you are young and naive. Please don't take this personally, but you clearly have no idea of what it means to be homeless in America!!! Let me tell you what the true definition of "homeless" means: any person that is w/out a legal residence is considered to be homeless. Say for instance, you live w/your sister, but you are not on her lease, by all accounts, you are considered "homeless". As for the MTV special, broaden your horizon and watch ESPN or 20/20 for more factual information. You will be surprised to know that many homeless persons work everyday!!
Mrs. watson i not taking anything personal, im not speaking for all homeless people and i dont think that i'm naive...im speaking personally on what i have seen on the streets here in raleigh... and clearly by your defintion of homeless i wouldnt totally agree, i guess thats your defintion of homeless but my would be something different homeless is not having a home to come to, going without food water,peace of mind...by your definton at some point in life almost everyone i know where homeless...your example:that person still has a roof over their head, they know they could come home to a place every night vs. a homeless person who has to find some where on the streets to sleep or even a shelter and thats if they make it in time for the shelter hours... so i wouldnt consider that homeless...but everyone is intitle to their opinions~Donchelle~
So as late as i am, i would like to touch base a little bit more on the "Tip Drill" video like Mr. Brooks. In class, the question was raised on whether or not women should be held accountable for hip-hop's dogmatic and degrading way of portraying them? My answer is: yes! Just as much as the men in the industry degrade women through lyrics and sexual exploitation, women do their part in this as well by auditioning and choosing to participate in these videos. I often hear men and women my age and older saying that "these rappers should be ashamed of themselves," yet these are the same people whom will stop at nothing to make a quick and easy buck. While I disagree with portraying a woman as nothing more than a twenty-first century shrew, I understand that rappers know that sex sells, and the "video girls" comprehend this concept as well; thus they exploit themselves for money. I guess what I am saying is that these video dancers have just as much hand in this brothel-like industry called hip-hop as much as men do.
I agree with Uhall in reference to the video dancers being held accountable for their part in the exploitation of themselves for money but I just wanted to add this.....we never know people's reasoning behind why they do some of the things they do. I cant knock the hustle. We all know sex sells and pays the bills but, what about that young lady that is just out here trying to make it? I know there are better ways to accomplish this and I am sure she could go to college and get a decent paying job but that takes time. We are living in the time of "right now". I saw a BET special about the video vixens and what takes place behind the scenes. It is a degrading industry and most of them were not happy with what they were partaking in. Some e even turned down the more "degrading" roles. But what one wont do another one will so the saga continues. I think it is more about the quick money and it pays well. Everybody's method of survival is different and not so much about how they will be viewed in the end. I also feel like these hip-hop artists can attempt to rap about something else besides sex and how good a woman's body looks! Damn enough is enough!
I agree with Mdg on the issue of homelessness. There are people out there on the street that chose to homeless. They don't want help because they are down on their luck, they don't try to contact family or friends because they are embarrassed. How do you help those that don't want to be helped? I was reading Watson's definition of homeless and I never thought of it in that way. It blew my mind that I could be staying with a friend or relative and be considered homeless. I guess this is true b/c at any time they could ask for you to leave and you may have no where to go. There are some people out here one paycheck away from being homeless. In this struggling economy it's hard to save when all you have is going towards maintaining a household. Nevertheless, we should all count our blessings because at any time it could change.
Donchelle, I detect by your tone that you have taken my comments harshly. Sorry you did, but I was attempting to shed some light on a subject you know little about. The definition given is one used by agencies in Wake County. And yes, many people have experienced "homelessness" @ some point in their lives. Food for thought! See you in class, Ms. Watson
UHall I would have to agree with you on the comment you made about the women being responsible for their actions in these sleazy videos. VH1 had a special on video vixens and I was not at all suprised by the things these girls would do to just be in a video. But as we all know sex sales and many individuals will stop at nothing to make that almighty dollar.
GREAT! I am glad that some of us agree that people are accountable for their own actions and society plays no role in their behavior. People behave the way they want to behave without any influence from anywhere else.
Donchelle Florence wow what a come back. To bad that you are applying this to your personal life and completely looked over the reply to your topic. I said it isnt a big issue to society unless you are the one suffering from it. not you but any individual (meaning living check by check) not you and what you financial struggles are, but society as a whole. if you read carefully you would of realized that i was agreeing with the fact that i believe that it is a problem that should be looked at alittle more carefully, but is looked over most of the time, by those who are NOT affected. too bad when you are in that situation you realize who is and will always be there thru thick and thin. Those are the people "if any" that you should keep close to you. Your absolutely right why help someone that cant and wont help them selves.
Mrs. watson im not upset with your comment actually after i post the comment i went and did some research...i cant get upset at you for posting a blog (your opinion)...thats why it's an opinion no right or wrong to what you think....others may have different enlightments that may enhance someone's way of thinking...thats what this blog is for... right??? no hard feelings :)~Donchelle~
I agree with some comments on homelessness. However, also it needs to be realized that many of these people are mentally ill and have no other options. As far as young women in music videos I think everyone is on target. What people won't do for money!!!!!! Also, I wanted to comment on the presentations we went to and how hard I was in class on JJ which I apologize for because I do want to be there for younger individuals today and be a role model. This class is very interesting with the discussions, it really stimulates thought processes and interactions across various ages and intellects.
On Thursday one of the things we very briefly mentioned (someone used it as an example) was homelessness, and why some people don't think it is a social problem, well because it doesn't directly affect all people, they don't do anything about it, but they do, indirectly,they(someone)does things to counteract the situation not help it People complain about the people on the streets or harrassing them for moneies. On hillsboro street by NC state, and i think in Chapel hill by UNC, they have made panhandling illegal, and if memory serves me correct in some areas panhandlers have to get a permit. Ok let us think realistically, more likely than not a person who is "begging"for money, does not have the money to pay for a permit,but someone felt is it was enough of an issue to cause the city to make this a rule or law. So is it a social problem? Also downtown in Moore square, raleigh is trying to revitalize the area, so they have tried to ship the people from the immediate downtown area, further out, they are masking the problem, not helping. How can they help? With the revitalization, they can hire more people (but w/o an address it is hard to get a job)not think that all people on the street want to be on the street(perception),build more shelters,job training,affordable housing,housing is going up, but who can afford them? Just a thought.
ReplyDeleteWhat stood out to me the most in class was the issue that was raised about the number of homicides amongst black men. It has really opened my eyes to the impact that loss of life will cause. Yes, the loss of the life itself is tragic but very seldom do we think about the impact that loss has on the lives he left behind. Someone's Role model-gone, Son-gone,Father-gone,Husband-gone,Head of household-gone Wow!
ReplyDeleteI have never been oblivious to fact that in society we have a lot of problems but I never knew how to separate them from "social" problems. This class has really opened my eyes to what is really going on.
I had never really thought of the hierarchies of social change but in the past few classes I have been exposed to various thought processes regarding our socio culture. Yes it is possible for a society to change behavioral patterns and it happens at both the macro and micro level and yes social change also requires certain conditions Caldwell’s “the tipping point” helped me to appreciate; societal change can be encouraged in a variety of ways on a variety of levels; and that each change results in some type of economical advantage.
ReplyDeleteFor example: If the social change has a negative impact on the economy of a city, new policies are put into effect to eradicate, eliminate, minimize or obtain control over what is causing the problem, with hopes it will eventually regain the economy that was lost.
If the social change stems from a more intrinsic value, for instance, wanting society to adopt a more liberal view on personal rights; societal change becomes complex as different appeals are explored that emphasize a commonality that we, as a society all share. Because of the complex nature of diversity and cultural values this type of change occurs in successive steps.
Discovering effective and strategic measures that encourage change while non-violently pressing on, for the right(s) of the oppressed without discrimination take time; to enable fairness, equality, respect and a right to aspire to achieve the American Dream is the constitutional right of all American citizens.
Last weeks discussions were good as all ways. But I wanted to put my emphasis, on the homicide rate among black men in America. I think it is a very sad situation for our young brothers to die so young, by violence. A lot of these killings that occur are senseless and over petty stuff. Whether black or white I find this to be a social problem, in our local communties. We as a people need to take a stance, and stand up for non-violence in our communities. Eventually, I would like to see less reports of violent crimes. And more of our black men becoming lawyers, doctors, pastors, athletes, etc. Because as we know, there is a lot more out in the world, that black men can do, than kill.
ReplyDeleteone of the things that caught my attention this week was the homicide in our society. alot of the crime that does occur in today's society are black on black crime. why are all of our black men dying due to violences...why cant they help one another why cant their be peace...another think that really touch me was when you had us get into a group and tell something that we wanted to say for a while and couldnt get off our chest...to me it made me feel better because my group really didnt know me so they couldnt judge me and i got some really good advice...(thinks mrs .D and Carrie).
ReplyDeleteCrystal your post about homelessness i dont know if i quite agree with it...people in today's society that are homeless are homeless due to some type of addiction whether it's drugs acohol or simply not willing to work. I dont feel bad for majority of the homeless people that are on the streets...i feel as if there is plenty of assists thats avaiable for people to get, there are plenty of jobs out there if only people apply themselves. my attitude isnt going to change about homeless people i work hard for my money why cant they work hard to get theirs and i dont mean by standing on the corner in the cold or hot sun and holding up signs that say "god bless America" or "Obama yes we can" but accutally appying their selves.
ReplyDeleteI remember watching this doc. on MTV about homelessness and the homeless people were saying that they make more money a year working the streets then getting a real job where the gov't tax money. that really made me upset. also to see someone on the streets with their signs then have a beer can sitting on the curve within arms reach thats crazy...i guess you can say i'm a complainer...
Donchelle.....I would have to agree with you to a certain point on the homeless issue. Are many of the homeless people homeless because they do not want to work or are they facing some other issue of society? Before the economy got the way it is now, I always would say to if I can go to work everyday then why don't they get out and find some work. If you think about it though most of us are one paycheck away from being homeless ourselves.
ReplyDeletei think that if the hard working american people are one paycheck away from being homeless we need more goverment funding for some things if we work hard to make the enviroment sufficiant. The people cant always be the blame for their situation think about people who have college degrees and work at places like mac donalds. this is just in some cases but still it is a social problem!
ReplyDeleteDonchelle i want to interview you for my project,i understand your point and i saw the same piece on 2020,but that applies to a few, not all homeless people. Many do suffer from abuse, alcohol, drugs, and mental issues, but reality is alot of people are one pay check away from homeless.Last week there was an article in the paper, a man is living in the woods, he was a city worker, but got laid off,there is a woman in Moore Square right across the street from the Salvation Army living in a white van because her and her son could not afford to pay the bills, i forgot the issue, but housing wouldn't give them anything so she chose to live in her van,she makes crafts and sells them for money,could you imagine living in a van.Please don't let a few skew your mind to the many who have legitamate reasons for being homeless. Did you know if you live in a shelter, if when you leave at 5am that is the time you have to be up and out of there,if you go to work, or where ever, and are not back in at a certain time you are not garunteed a spot that night? Also if you make a certain amount of money,social services will not help you with needed monies, they calculate three months past income, determining what help you can get, so if you made too much three months ago, you can not get certain services, also the heating assistance, if you don't have a small child or 65 or older they will not give you emergency funds.Ask me how i know.One of the things i want to pride myself in doing when i become a counselor or teacher or both is speaking what i know, not what i learned in a book, living experience is truth, and a person can respect what you are doing if you have lived it or know it, i know all this because beleive it or not i was homeless....you can not get a job without an address, you can not get help if you don't have a job,yes one paycheck, one bad incident, one miscalculation,one stupid decision yours or someone elses can cause you to be homeless. Yes there are people who are more than capable of working, and are hooked on drugs, but do we stop and ask the question why? i used to feel the same way,i wanted to know where they got the pen and paper to write the stupid signs,everyone and every situation is different. That is why i am very passionate about learning, i never want to be put in that situation again,Moore square was my backdrop, my entertainment, my living room BET ain't got Squat on Moore Square.
ReplyDeleteI really wanted to say something regarding the article on Hip Hop. It was stated in class that Hip Hop was the problem and rappers like Common and Mos Def are not top sellers in the industry. I agree with that, however, Common and Mos Def are examples of the poetry that is rap. Hip Hop is now being used as a teaching tool in schools in Atlanta and D.C. Two men started a school where hip hop through rhyming can teach students especially black students, Math, Science, English, and so forth. The United States must adjust their curriculum to fit the needs of the non-majority students. We are different and have different learning needs. In Africa, children learn my the beat of the drum and rhythm is the basis of their curriculum. I think this is very helpful today in teaching our children their history as well as other subjects. The outdated curriculum being used by most states does not adequately teach students from diverse backgrounds properly. This why rappers often put in their lyrics how the American public school system has failed them.
ReplyDeleteSince I feel like homelessness is a social problem, I feel I should say something about it. I am really focused on a new mind set of homelessness. Before I was in the class social stratification, I must admit, I thought homeless people were all lazy and looking for excuses to just stand around and beg people for money. But being in the class and us actually going out to different homeless shelters and interacting with many different people who are homeless, changed my whole perspective. Yes, there may be some or possibly most homeless people out there because of drug addiction or something else negative. But when you meet just that ONE who is doing all the right things like we are and went to college, received a degree, started a family, had a good job, and still manage to become homeless just because of one mistake or job lay off- that will make you want to help and see what really goes on and how some people end up there. Then you began to see that its more homeless people out there that are doing the right thing and then you began to see that "this could be you" then it becomes a social problem.
ReplyDeleteI wanted to comment just a lil bit on the exploitation of gender whether being male or female. It got a bit heated in class the other day and i wanted to, first off apologize if I offended any one or If I seemed out of line. In many case in the hip hop world and society theres a "double standards" when it comes to sexuality of men and women both are different but in all cases should be respected equally.
ReplyDeleteJamaal, thanks for the kind words. I wasn't offended, and I appreciated your passionate argument. I would enjoy hearing you say more about this "double standard" concept....
ReplyDeleteGood comments, everyone! Where is the rest of the class?
what caught me off guard in class last week was that only 1000 out of 100,000 black men will be killed by homicide every year. personally i thought that the number would be much higher. just in the small town that i live in there are at least 10 to 15 homicides a year so i could not imagine the numbers in larger cities but evidently the numbers are not that different. another issue that stood out to me was when we got to get into groups and let them know of a situation in our life we never really wanted someone to know about. at first i still didn't but after someone else broke the ice it mad it much easier for me. it starts with tell one or two but maybe one day i will be able to tell whoever to help me get the dead weight off my heart and life.
ReplyDeleteJamaal, in response to your comment, I too apologize if anyone got offended. I agree that in society period there are double standards, however, there is no need for society to buy into that. Women have come a long way and it is amazing that in 2009, we are still being viewed as objects.
ReplyDeleteDonchelle I agree with some of your points on homelessness. With the economy the way it currently is (in the worst shape since the Great Depression), there is obviously going to be an increase in the amount of people on the streets.
ReplyDeletePeople are losing their houses in record numbers and also losing jobs daily with no opportunity to secure another one. We must build, rehab, buy, and help extremely low-income people rent, affordable housing. The unhealthy housing economy contributed greatly to our current economic situation. A healthy housing economy must be part of the solution.Now is the time to help households in crisis before they become homeless.Allowing homelessness to become the natural outcome of poverty, violence, or illness only allows those problems to become worse and more costly to individuals and society.
In this state it also is the effect of mentally ill individuals being discharged too early from state hospitals with no proper aftercare and many of them end up back on the streets.I agree too that many times it is the result of substance abusers whose only focus is where to get their next "high". You can easily see the problem in our area when you go by the Salvation Army downtown where the homeless all line up to get their meals daily. The amount of people in line for food is increasing daily. I agree with you also that many can be seen on exit ramps off of 40 panhandling and I myself have witnessed them having a wad of money. (apparently it may be more lucrative than an actual job) Isn't it interesting that citizens will help a person down on their luck more than local government coming up with more resources for these individuals to be able to get a job and keep it. This problem is definitely going to get worse before it gets better.
Hey Jamaal, your comments were not so exploited as you may think. I understood were you was coming from, far as male and females in the industry. Of course women are subjected more to labels, and can be characterize quick in a negative way. But the same response can be govern towards a man as will. As you pointed out, there is definetly a "double standard" when it comes to sexuality and thee affect it has on people.
ReplyDeleteDontrell, the point you made about people being one check away from homelessness, is so true. At one point in time people had enough to survive. But now -a -days, people are barely making it. I believe the economy is to blame for our set backs. Individuals having to work 2 and 3 jobs, just to make ends meet. Every paycheck deciding on what bills to pay. It's sad, but in the same instance so true. Once before people who had money, used to look down on the homeless. But now people are looking up at them. Finally realizing that could be them. Out in the cold, no money, no food, no shelter etc. The affect of being homeless has affected so many people, and I'll be glad when something can be done about it.
ReplyDeleteI agree with everyone's comments on homelessness. I believe homelessness is a problem, but I don't know if it is a social problem by the definition of the term. I do not think that society has agreed to do anything about it. After all the US has spent billions if not trillions on the wars in Afganistan and Iraq. I just don't understand why America does not have a solution to this problem as well as a solution to healthcare. Healthcare should be universal. We need to put our money where our mouth is.
ReplyDeleteI agree that a social problem consist of the society having to agree to do something about it. I think that society plays a big part because of all the homeless shelters that people agreed to help and work at. Also, there are certain programs that are out there which help support them. So I believe that society is trying.
ReplyDeleteI know, i know, i am late.... but better late than never... lol In the past week what really stood out to me was the "TIP DRILL' video, and how so many women, who never saw the video were upset about it. In the video, when he swiped the card between her butt cheeks, i dint think it symobilized him buying her, i just thought it was a funny way of nelly saying and showing that she has a big butt. To all the women who were upset bout the image the young ladies in the video were putting out, you have to think, the video came on UNCUT, which only aired at 3am, so staying up that late what were u expecting to see, atleast they all knew it was to extreme for regular video shows, and also, the only commericals during uncut are girls gone wild commercials so i mean really what do u expect in the video. also, nelly was not forcing these women to do anything, he had a casting, told them their role, and offered money... they had a choice to do it or not...
ReplyDeleteBrooks in response to your comment I have not seen the TIP drill video by Nelly, however, Dr. Greenfield's demostration said it all. The credit card incident did symbolize to me that she was to be bought. I think what we were supposed to get out of that discussion is that women in the hip hop industry have very limited choices. They do not have the same opportunities as men have to be successful. What it takes for women to have a profitable profession in the hip hop market requires them to sell their a$$.
ReplyDeleteSometimes people make social problems by the choices they make. For example some homeless people choose to be homeless, because they think that they are beating the system by not having to pay taxes. God gave all people the choice of free will. Many times we blame society for I problems, but the problem looks at you in the mirror everyday. To do nothing is to become part of the problem
ReplyDeleteWell one thing that interested me was the part when we disqust the different topics and what we thought about it. Well one of the topics was "if we think weed (marijuana) should illgalized". My conversation was with my play husband U. Hall. My opinion about the topic was that it would keep alot of our black men out of the prisons for the use or the intent to see marijuana. It would stop them from selling it out in the streets forcing them to turn to other options. There would be more job opertunities because if weed was legal there will no longer be testing positive for marijuana. Which is one of our reason why our black men are turned down from jobs today.....
ReplyDeletei am commenting on Donchelle Florences and Crystal comments on Homelessness, it is a really small issue when your not the one being affected by it. Due to the economy I believe eventually it will be a bigger problem as time passes. Believe it or not every one needs a helping hand at some point of their lives but, 80% of the time there is no one there with their hand out to help. So in this case it is very critical to each individual person to be responsible for there life situations. Your actions will effect you for the rest of your life whether it is good of bad decision. Nothing is handed to you in life, its a bomber that we all can not be born into rich families where money will never be an issue.If we were there would be other problems that would make up for homelessness. So yes i agree it is an issue but all there will always be a rich and a poor.
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ReplyDeleteI beleieve that homelesssssssnes in this country is a BIG problem. I beleieve people try not to mention it. Most people rather act as if not having a place to go, stay , or live was some kind of taboo. The actions of some lost soul who shoot dope or didnt go to school. This is not always the case, I know people (friends) that at some point in time where living on the land; I understand to sum extent what these kinds of people go through as far a living,surviving,and such. The experience helped me to count my blessings and realize that at any moment I could lose my home and the bearings of my character.
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ReplyDeleteLeola first off who are you to say that im not being affected by this issue; i know some of us are not born into rich families and i understand some of us are not served on a golden spoon, hell i'm living pay check to pay check praying every night money come from somewhere but when i have to go out into the in work for my money then i feel you can do the samething...i not bout to spend my hard working money on someone who is not trying to help theirself for the better... you know as well as i know i help everyone that i possibly can but there comes a thin line when i feel like you are not trying to help yourself are you are smooching...and alot of that does go around...crystal i will be more than likely to be interview....im not quite sure who you are approach me in class...
ReplyDeleteI meant to say there draws a line when a person feels like someone is trying to get over on them and dont want to help out anymore and personaly thats how i feel.
ReplyDeleteCrystal, I appreciate your stand on the issue of homelessness. As you know, I've worked closely w/the population here in Wake County and see this social problem from all sides. I too, plan to fulfill my projected assignment on the issue of homelessness.
ReplyDeleteDonchelle, I van see by you comments that you are young and naive. Please don't take this personally, but you clearly have no idea of what it means to be homeless in America!!! Let me tell you what the true definition of "homeless" means:
ReplyDeleteany person that is w/out a legal residence is considered to be homeless. Say for instance, you live w/your sister, but you are not on her lease, by all accounts, you are considered "homeless". As for the MTV special, broaden your horizon and watch ESPN or 20/20 for more factual information. You will be surprised to know that many homeless persons work everyday!!
Mrs. watson i not taking anything personal, im not speaking for all homeless people and i dont think that i'm naive...im speaking personally on what i have seen on the streets here in raleigh... and clearly by your defintion of homeless i wouldnt totally agree, i guess thats your defintion of homeless but my would be something different homeless is not having a home to come to, going without food water,peace of mind...by your definton at some point in life almost everyone i know where homeless...your example:that person still has a roof over their head, they know they could come home to a place every night vs. a homeless person who has to find some where on the streets to sleep or even a shelter and thats if they make it in time for the shelter hours... so i wouldnt consider that homeless...but everyone is intitle to their opinions~Donchelle~
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ReplyDeleteSo as late as i am, i would like to touch base a little bit more on the "Tip Drill" video like Mr. Brooks. In class, the question was raised on whether or not women should be held accountable for hip-hop's dogmatic and degrading way of portraying them? My answer is: yes! Just as much as the men in the industry degrade women through lyrics and sexual exploitation, women do their part in this as well by auditioning and choosing to participate in these videos. I often hear men and women my age and older saying that "these rappers should be ashamed of themselves," yet these are the same people whom will stop at nothing to make a quick and easy buck. While I disagree with portraying a woman as nothing more than a twenty-first century shrew, I understand that rappers know that sex sells, and the "video girls" comprehend this concept as well; thus they exploit themselves for money. I guess what I am saying is that these video dancers have just as much hand in this brothel-like industry called hip-hop as much as men do.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Uhall in reference to the video dancers being held accountable for their part in the exploitation of themselves for money but I just wanted to add this.....we never know people's reasoning behind why they do some of the things they do.
ReplyDeleteI cant knock the hustle. We all know sex sells and pays the bills but, what about that young lady that is just out here trying to make it? I know there are better ways to accomplish this and I am sure she could go to college and get a decent paying job but that takes time. We are living in the time of "right now".
I saw a BET special about the video vixens and what takes place behind the scenes. It is a degrading industry and most of them were not happy with what they were partaking in. Some e even turned down the more "degrading" roles. But what one wont do another one will so the saga continues. I think it is more about the quick money and it pays well. Everybody's method of survival is different and not so much about how they will be viewed in the end. I also feel like these hip-hop artists can attempt to rap about something else besides sex and how good a woman's body looks! Damn enough is enough!
I agree with Mdg on the issue of homelessness. There are people out there on the street that chose to homeless. They don't want help because they are down on their luck, they don't try to contact family or friends because they are embarrassed. How do you help those that don't want to be helped?
ReplyDeleteI was reading Watson's definition of homeless and I never thought of it in that way. It blew my mind that I could be staying with a friend or relative and be considered homeless. I guess this is true b/c at any time they could ask for you to leave and you may have no where to go.
There are some people out here one paycheck away from being homeless. In this struggling economy it's hard to save when all you have is going towards maintaining a household. Nevertheless, we should all count our blessings because at any time it could change.
Donchelle, I detect by your tone that you have taken my comments harshly. Sorry you did, but I was attempting to shed some light on a subject you know little about. The definition given is one used by agencies in Wake County. And yes, many people have experienced "homelessness" @ some point in their lives. Food for thought!
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UHall I would have to agree with you on the comment you made about the women being responsible for their actions in these sleazy videos. VH1 had a special on video vixens and I was not at all suprised by the things these girls would do to just be in a video. But as we all know sex sales and many individuals will stop at nothing to make that almighty dollar.
ReplyDeleteGREAT! I am glad that some of us agree that people are accountable for their own actions and society plays no role in their behavior. People behave the way they want to behave without any influence from anywhere else.
ReplyDeleteDonchelle Florence wow what a come back. To bad that you are applying this to your personal life and completely looked over the reply to your topic. I said it isnt a big issue to society unless you are the one suffering from it. not you but any individual (meaning living check by check) not you and what you financial struggles are, but society as a whole. if you read carefully you would of realized that i was agreeing with the fact that i believe that it is a problem that should be looked at alittle more carefully, but is looked over most of the time, by those who are NOT affected. too bad when you are in that situation you realize who is and will always be there thru thick and thin. Those are the people "if any" that you should keep close to you. Your absolutely right why help someone that cant and wont help them selves.
ReplyDeleteMrs. watson im not upset with your comment actually after i post the comment i went and did some research...i cant get upset at you for posting a blog (your opinion)...thats why it's an opinion no right or wrong to what you think....others may have different enlightments that may enhance someone's way of thinking...thats what this blog is for... right??? no hard feelings :)~Donchelle~
ReplyDeleteI agree with some comments on homelessness. However, also it needs to be realized that many of these people are mentally ill and have no other options. As far as young women in music videos I think everyone is on target. What people won't do for money!!!!!! Also, I wanted to comment on the presentations we went to and how hard I was in class on JJ which I apologize for because I do want to be there for younger individuals today and be a role model. This class is very interesting with the discussions, it really stimulates thought processes and interactions across various ages and intellects.
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